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You'll all want to start wearing as much wool clothing as possible.
If you go into the pond, it'll likely save your life.
You're welcome.
If you go into the pond, it'll likely save your life.
You're welcome.
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Gotta find a job proper before I can really focus on Christmas shopping. :P I'm asking Santa for a 'Bible' for Agatha so I hope he can help me out on that front. [ alas, it's not what he'll be getting come december 25 but the effort counts? ]
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You know you can buy bibles, right? They're not exactly rare. If she's that desperate for one, one of the local churches might give you one for free, I think that's a thing they do.
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But thanks for the heads up! Will definitely check out a church and ask if I could take one for free. [ it doesn't(??) read like daylight is being sarcastic? maybe? ]
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He's not sure how he should feel about enabling access to a Bible, but that's his own issue, and he's never — begrudged anyone their faith, regardless of his own feelings about Her.]
Fair warning that you'll likely get the sales pitch for Christianity at a church, might want to pretend you know what they're talking about to avoid the conversion attempts.
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Anything I should say or do to make them think I'm one of them? [ wouldn't hurt to get tips from someone who seems to know what they're talking about. better get an idea of what to do and what not to do before he heads to one of those local churches. ]
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First thing would not be mentioning your Venerated Thirteen, they're a bit particular about their god being the only one.
My fingers will fall off if I try to explain it all, but let's see:
Most folks here will be Protestant, so tell them you're Catholic or Orthodox and you might get away with not knowing their exact way of doing things. The bloke running the church is likely a minister or pastor, for Protestants, and I think you can call him Reverend? It's been a while, since I've been to church. Treat it a bit like a library, be quiet and respectful, especially if there's a service happening.
They'll just refer to their god as 'God', sometimes the Almighty or the Lord. Some two thousand years ago He sent His son to Earth, Jesus Christ, that'd be where the 'Christ' in Christianity comes from, and their Bible's mostly based on his life and teachings. They're big on the concept of the soul/spirit and eternal life. If you're good, you get to go to Heaven, if you're bad, it's to Hell to get tortured for eternity.
Suppose any easy trick would be to cross yourself as you enter. Touch your brow, your chest, then your left to right shoulder. It's a sort of prayer that Catholics do. If they've got a font of water at the entrance, dip your fingers into that before doing it, but not all churches here have Holy Water.
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besides reminding himself to look up certain terms mentioned here - catholic? orthodox? protestant? going to have to look these up before he starts throwing words around, he decides. - daylight thinks he follows most of what's written here. follows the teachings of a creator's creation and has a book that is a compilation of the creation's life and their lessons. follow it and you're good (their version of good) then you get to go to heaven. heaven sounds like a nice reward.
(though, as a side note: the... the bit about hell and being tortured for eternity throws him out of a loop, he won't lie, but everything else seems to line up.) ]
Oh wow. This is a lot of information but I think I've got everything written down here and I should have the gist of this by the time I swing by a chucrch and speak with their pastor. Thanks a lot!
Is there any way I can pay you back for your help? This is really useful to know and it's great not going into something, like, super blind.
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You can pay me back by not mentioning this to anyone, I've got a reputation to maintain.
Oh, and if you do read the Bible, remember that it's not actually God's word. All of it was written by humans and it's been translated a whole lot by people with their own interpretations and motivations. Take it with a grain of salt.
[A normal, non-religious person might have just said "the Bible isn't real" but that would exactly be true.]
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Stab my heart and sew my mouth, our secret shall not be spout! I totally can do that for you, promise.
[ though... hmmm, what was written in the last did catch his attention and he can’t help but ask: ] And I guess bringing that up won’t be considered in good faith, huh? Because the teachings and the traditions that were gleaned from the writings have been established for long as this Christianity is around where you are?
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Got it on one. If we were a bit more modern, you could find some Christians who are more open to those sorts of conversations, but they're likely on the conservative side, here. Nevermind that half the shit they talk about would make Jesus furious, they're more interested in upholding the status quo.
[Perhaps a bit too honest, there.]
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Thanks for that. Last thing I want to do is make them suspicious of me while I'm just there hoping to get a free Bible to give to Agatha. If I can at least get her that and make the month less sucky, I think it'll be worth having to listen to some pretty iffy stuff for an hour or so.
Hope I can pay you back for this. I really mean this.
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Good luck getting your Bible. Ciao.
[Surprisingly, a sentence he has said before, but only to Aziraphale about his collection of misprints.
But he's happy to leave it there. If he runs into Daylight in person, he might have some questions and offer more information of his own, but that can be tabled for now.]